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hommius, войну нужно было быстрее закончить, ибо Оду просили быстрее закругляться. Отсюда и итог.

Попробовал нагуглить что-то на этот счет, но не вышло.
Зато наткнулся на интересный пост на реддите и коммент к нему: (источник:https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/co...anga_spoilers/)
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Now I understand why Oda said that Marineford was like a side trip to him and how he was surprised that so many people liked it. Looking at Big Moms crew and their respective abilities, it seems as if they're on a completely different level compared to Whitebeard's. I think Oda did a really bad job of displaying true power of the powerhouses at Marineford. He most likely realised this and tried to rectify his mistake by making Punk hazard half ice and half magma to show that the war was nowhere near the extent of the top tiers abilities.

Vista should be on the same level as Cracker and Jack but he barely did anything during the war. Nothing at all made me think "wow, this guy is powerful", despite the fact that he must be incredibly strong to be third strongest commander. Fighting with on par with Mihawk tells us that he has incredible skill, but Oda didn't really SHOW us his strength in the battle. If Zoro can slice up things as big as Pica's gigantic stone body, then he should doing things like that almost casually, probably be able to slice through birdcage like butter as well. But from what we saw at Marineford he didn't look special at all.

Marco was quite unimpressive as well, he can heal and fly but he doesn't really look like he was any dangerous attacking power at all. Again, he fought on par with Admirals which tells us that he's strong, but he didn't really DO anything that made me think that he's strong. I can't imagine how he would deal with a G4 Luffy like Cracker did, even though he should be able to win. From what we've seen, I'm struggling to see how he would defeat Doflamingo. I think that his physical abilities are probably far greater than what we've seen, or there's more to his Pheonix abilites than shown in the war. Either way, I'm most disappointed with him, so I'm glad that he's coming back soon to prove himself.

Jozu did a little more than the other two, like cracking and throwing that huge chunk of ice, but he too was underwhelming. Stopped easily by Doflamingo's parasite which even Luffy broke out of, and frozen which Doffy broke out of(although Jozu was frozen more thoroughly). Also for someone who looks like they should be the physical powerhouse of the crew, G4 looks WAY more destructive than anything that he has ever done.

Even Big Moms ministers are more impressive than the rest of the division commanders, apart from Ace and Blackbeard. In the latest chapter, the powers of people like Oven, Perospero and Daifuku look quite good, whereas I can't even remember the names of the rest Whitebeard's crew. There's also people like Pekoms, Tamago, Randolf, Brulee, Bege and others who are decent in combat as well.

I'm sure that when Oda reintroduces Marco (And hopefully Jozu and Vista as well) in the fight against Kaido, we will witness their true power. If Kaido's crew is anywhere near as big as Big Moms, then they're probably going to need the extra help.

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agree but slight counter here - if we really did look into WB's crew etc that arc would"ve taken ages and ages. The main thing that needed to be established was that the Admirals were capable of going toe-to-toe with Whitebeard - 'the strongest man in the world'. It followed that his crew was capable of doing SOME damage to them. Which was true, they did a bit and then got owned.


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hommius, а что мне увидеть надо? что он бьётся с Кайдо? бьётся с БУ? Бьётся с адмиралом?

Даже в отрыве от датабуков с "легендами" и "шанкс крутой, но михоук лучший", титула сильнейшего мечника и пр. можно увидеть:
1. Его силу признает БУ и Шанкс.
2. Пример для подражания второго ГГ манги, который уже приближается к уровню старпомов йонок.
3. Ненапряжное разрубание той льдины > все что показали комдивы йонко.

Вот что самое крутое показал тот же Катакури, которого судя по всему ты ставишь выше Михи на голову?
Ваншот статиста конфеткой и залепил пушки Большого Папки клеем. Его фейлы я даже перечислять стесняюсь, тем более что в отличие Михи у него был реальный повод стараться на максимум.
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