Обсуждение манги и спойлеров "One Piece" XXXV: Финальная Сага Начинается

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Тема для обсуждения спойлеров и вышедших глав манги One Piece. Часть 35.

ВАЖНО:

• Используйте тег HIDE для ссылок.
• Спойлеры новых глав ТУТ. Обычно они появляются в четверг.
• Главы на английском (и русском) теперь выходят по пятницам, но могут быть сдвиги из-за отсутствия нормальных переводчиков. Иногда из-за праздников журнал в Японии выходит раньше, тогда глава в сети тоже появляется на день раньше.

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[MonsterLaw]

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Цитата: Chapter 1056 "Cross Guild” We have Katakuri and Oven in the cover about to attack Ichiji, Niji, Yonji and Reiju The chapter starts after the banquet has already ended. Shinobu and Raizou are lying in the bed malnourished while the Red Scabbards are asking them to hold on. The red scabbards accept what Aramaki said; that Kaidou was a deterrent that kept their enemies away. Kin’emon apologizes because he was in Kuri with Tsuru while everything happened. Nekomamushi tells him to not worry because the damages were minimum thanks to Momonosuke's efforts and asks him how is Tsuru doing. Kin’emon reveals that she was received a severe burn on her face but there is no risk in her life. Meanwhile we see Tsuru talking with Ochocho about Kin’emons return and that he has already gone to the capital and she may go to the capital too because she wants to be with Kinemon. Back to Kin’emon we see him blush while saying that Tsuru is as beautiful as always, Inuarashi says that's too sweet even for dogs, Neko laughs, Kiku thinks that’s lovely and Raizou lying in bed malnourished is saying that he wants to be popular. The scene changes, Carrot arrives because she was called by Inuarashi and Nekomamushi. Inu tells her to become the King of Mokomo Dukedon,, at first Carrot reacted with a "King? Yaay okay” as if she didn’t give it too much importance until she realized what they were talking about and ends up saying that she doesn’t want because there is no way she can do it. Inu and Neko tells her that they are going to stay in Wano to protect Momo as samurais and she is one of the few talented people who has gone to overseas, so she should have what is needed for the next era. Carrot still complains saying that a stronger person would be better but Shishilian appears saying that their duty is the protection of the country. Wanda tells her that she will support her and that this is the decision of the dukes, plus she inherited Pedro's will. The scene ends with Nekomamushi saying that he will leave Zou to them. Now we see Momonosuke, Hiyori and Sukiyaki. Sukiyaki told them that he is their grandfather. They hug him, Sukiyaki apologizes and thanks them. Momo tells him that he is reassured of having a blood relative alive. While looking at the red scabbards he tells them that as he thought, they realized his identity. Kawamatsu replies that he knew he couldn't be a normal swordsmith when he was wearing a Tengu mask even though there wasn't any festival and Kiku also says that it would be rude to guess right. Meanwhile Kin’emon is thinking, then we see his surprised face because he didn’t even think of the possibility of Tengu being Sukiyaki. Sukiyaki says that he has something to tell them but after that, he wants to retire without the civilians knowing about him. Next we see the crew. Franky is surprised is not only in Wano but that it existed. Luffy remembers about it a bit. Luffy: The thing that Franky burnt the blueprints!! Robin: Yes, the ancient weapon that has the name of a god, "Pluton”. Do you want it, Luffy: I don’t need it! Robin: I thought so... But why did Oden want to release that? While they were talking about weapons, a beautiful Shinobu appears with Otama asking if they are saying that mature womans are weapons? Tama, doing a ninja pose tells Luffy that she has become Shinobu's apprentice and asks Luffy to make her his nakama the next time they meet, when she becomes stronger. Nami runs to hug her saying that she is so cute and Luffy accepts saying that if she can use Ninjutsu he agrees. While Tama is happy we see Caribou who heard about Pluton saying that he has to tell to "that person” A few days have passed, you can see the people from the flower capital happy. We see Momo who is looking at the city while receiving work as shogun, Momo is looking at the happy kids talking. He starts walking and every time people meet him they call him "Shogun!". Momo opens a door happy and tries to tell Zoro to teach him a bit of swordmanship but then he realizes that there is no one in the room. He starts running through the castle calling the straw hats names including Yamato but he doesn’t find anyone. He ends up finding Hiyori who was with Toko playing the shamisen. Momo asks her about Luffy and the others but she tells him that they already left after they greeted the others. Momo surprised because they didn’t say anything to him and Kin'emon appears to talk about the same topic, the other scabbards greeted Luffy and co. but nothing was told to Kin'emon and Momonosuke. We see Luffy, Kidd and Law at Tokage port. Law is telling Luffy to change the day they leave Wano but Luffy complains saying that they had already decided to leave today. Kidd says that it can’t be helped if it’s a coincidence and they decide to choose different routes from the log pose now that it's fixed to "Northeast", "East” and "Southeast”. Kidd&Luffy: The middle one(east)! Law: Northeast Kidd and Luffy choose the middle one thinking that it would the one that advance the most but in truth "Northeast” is the one that advances forward the most. Law mocks them for this. Since they decided to take different directions Kidd and Luffy do a lottery to see which one goes to the east and Kidd ends up winning and Luffy tells Kidd that helost even though he is the "yonkou”, which makes Kidd a little mad but then he says that the one who he can't accept as Yonkou is Buggy. We see a page with Buggy, Crocodile and Mihawk in the newspaper and the logo of "Cross Guild”. Luffy is surprised to see that and asks why does it look like they are Buggy’s subordinates. Zoro looks at them and says he doesn't believe that, specially not for Mihawk. Law says that if Buggy was able to make those 2 obey him, then it’s appropriate to call him "Emperor" but Luffy replies telling him that Buggy is an idiot. We get information about Cross guild from Kidd. It seems that they put bounties to marine soldiers and now the navy have to be afraid of even civilians who could kill them. Law gives Kidd a copy of the road poneglyph saying that they have the right to have it. Killer says that they have to become serious about this to participate in the battle for the One Piece. Kidd asks Killer if he is trying to say that they should find the man with the "burn wound” even though they have no clue about where is he, Luffy is curious about this(same for Robin and Law makes an interesting expression which could basically be that he knows who he is talking about or that he is just hearing the conversation without knowing anything) but Kidd doesn’t tell him about him because that's better for them. The chapter ends with Momo shouting if Yamato has left too, but Yamato was at the roof and shouts to Momo that it’s time to go with Luffy and that it's time to live like Kouzuki Oden.

Яма в тиме

[Катакури]

вот последняя строчка с ямато, короче я на 99% уверен что момо докинет
The chapter ends with Momo shouting if Yamato has left too, but Yamato was at the roof and shouts to Momo that it’s time to go with Luffy and that it's time to live like Kouzuki Oden.

[Юрий Бонд]

Цитата: Сообщение от Монки  Вы ещё про Луффи что-то говорите, вон Кид, без связей, без силы, без удачи (самый адекватный из йонко, оттяпал ему руку). Но при этом, считается, тем кто на ровне, Лу и Ло победил йонко, имеет награду им равную, теперь ещё и на халяву понеглиф дали Вы золотую молодёжь не там ищите

Мне уже неловко, что я в середине арки сравнил Ребенка с Веджетой (такой же буйный, вечно вопящий, залупающийся на всех подряд и с какой-то радости мнящий себя достойным соперником ГГ). Тот хотя бы стабильно держит планку "второго по силе после Гоку". Металлиста после возни с Мамкой даже в десятку сильнейших не примут!:pikapika:

Цитата: Сообщение от MonsterLaw  Странно, что говоря про шичей, так и не обсудили тот факт, что за ними отправляли дозорных Учитывая, что за багги, ховка, вибла есть актуальные награды + сюда же "не пойманный" кроки, то получается никого из них мд так и не повязало Вопрос только к боа, которая привязана к острову амазонками, но если за ней отправили фанатку лу и слепого бунтаря... то и она выкрутится Как результат мд: проспали ра, просрали шичей, убежали из вано, и при этом у них нЕхВаТкА рЕсУрСоВ? Ух, дозор силен как никогда

Есть у меня подозрение, что к Багги ездил как раз Араки. Однако лопухнулся Бычара так, что предпочел не вспоминать об этом, и срочно рванул в Вано - самоутверждаться за счет непокорных галлов самураев и брать нового йонко тепленьким. А ему и там дали по репе! Просто черная полоса в жизни человека-сорняка!

[Катакури]

полные спойлеры если кому интересно
Оффтоп

Chapter 1056 "Cross Guild”

We have Katakuri and Oven in the cover about to attack Ichiji, Niji, Yonji and Reiju

The chapter starts after the banquet has already ended. Shinobu and Raizou are lying in the bed malnourished while the Red Scabbards are asking them to hold on.

The red scabbards accept what Aramaki said; that Kaidou was a deterrent that kept their enemies away.

Kin’emon apologizes because he was in Kuri with Tsuru while everything happened. Nekomamushi tells him to not worry because the damages were minimum thanks to Momonosuke's efforts and asks him how is Tsuru doing. Kin’emon reveals that she was received a severe burn on her face but there is no risk in her life.

Meanwhile we see Tsuru talking with Ochocho about Kin’emons return and that he has already gone to the capital and she may go to the capital too because she wants to be with Kinemon.

Back to Kin’emon we see him blush while saying that Tsuru is as beautiful as always, Inuarashi says that's too sweet even for dogs, Neko laughs, Kiku thinks that’s lovely and Raizou lying in bed malnourished is saying that he wants to be popular.

The scene changes, Carrot arrives because she was called by Inuarashi and Nekomamushi. Inu tells her to become the King of Mokomo Dukedon,, at first Carrot reacted with a "King? Yaay okay” as if she didn’t give it too much importance until she realized what they were talking about and ends up saying that she doesn’t want because there is no way she can do it.

Inu and Neko tells her that they are going to stay in Wano to protect Momo as samurais and she is one of the few talented people who has gone to overseas, so she should have what is needed for the next era. Carrot still complains saying that a stronger person would be better but Shishilian appears saying that their duty is the protection of the country. Wanda tells her that she will support her and that this is the decision of the dukes, plus she inherited Pedro's will. The scene ends with Nekomamushi saying that he will leave Zou to them.

Now we see Momonosuke, Hiyori and Sukiyaki. Sukiyaki told them that he is their grandfather. They hug him, Sukiyaki apologizes and thanks them. Momo tells him that he is reassured of having a blood relative alive.

While looking at the red scabbards he tells them that as he thought, they realized his identity. Kawamatsu replies that he knew he couldn't be a normal swordsmith when he was wearing a Tengu mask even though there wasn't any festival and Kiku also says that it would be rude to guess right. Meanwhile Kin’emon is thinking, then we see his surprised face because he didn’t even think of the possibility of Tengu being Sukiyaki.

Sukiyaki says that he has something to tell them but after that, he wants to retire without the civilians knowing about him.

Next we see the crew. Franky is surprised is not only in Wano but that it existed. Luffy remembers about it a bit.

Luffy: The thing that Franky burnt the blueprints!!

Robin: Yes, the ancient weapon that has the name of a god, "Pluton”. Do you want it, Luffy?

Luffy: I don’t need it!
Robin: I thought so... But why did Oden want to release that?

While they were talking about weapons, a beautiful Shinobu appears with Otama asking if they are saying that mature womans are weapons?

Tama, doing a ninja pose tells Luffy that she has become Shinobu's apprentice and asks Luffy to make her his nakama the next time they meet, when she becomes stronger. Nami runs to hug her saying that she is so cute and Luffy accepts saying that if she can use
Ninjutsu he agrees.

While Tama is happy we see Caribou who heard about Pluton saying that he has to tell to "that person”

A few days have passed, you can see the people from the flower capital happy. We see Momo who is looking at the city while receiving work as shogun, Momo is looking at the happy kids talking. He starts walking and every time people meet him they call him "Shogun!".

Momo opens a door happy and tries to tell Zoro to teach him a bit of swordmanship but then he realizes that there is no one in the room. He starts running through the castle calling the straw hats names including Yamato but he doesn’t find anyone.

He ends up finding Hiyori who was with Toko playing the shamisen. Momo asks her about Luffy and the others but she tells him that they already left after they greeted the others. Momo surprised because they didn’t say anything to him and Kin'emon appears to talk
about the same topic, the other scabbards greeted Luffy and co. but nothing was told to Kin'emon and Momonosuke.

We see Luffy, Kidd and Law at Tokage port. Law is telling Luffy to change the day they leave Wano but Luffy complains saying that they had already decided to leave today. Kidd says that it can’t be helped if it’s a coincidence and they decide to choose different routes from the log pose now that it's fixed to "Northeast", "East” and "Southeast”.

Kidd&Luffy: The middle one(east)!
Law: Northeast

Kidd and Luffy choose the middle one thinking that it would the one that advance the most but in truth "Northeast” is the one that advances forward the most. Law mocks them for this.

Since they decided to take different directions Kidd and Luffy do a lottery to see which one goes to the east and Kidd ends up winning and Luffy tells Kidd that helost even though he is the "yonkou”, which makes Kidd a little mad but then he says that the one who he can't accept as Yonkou is Buggy.

We see a page with Buggy, Crocodile and Mihawk in the newspaper and the logo of "Cross Guild”.

Luffy is surprised to see that and asks why does it look like they are Buggy’s subordinates. Zoro looks at them and says he doesn't believe that, specially not for Mihawk. Law says that if Buggy was able to make those 2 obey him, then it’s appropriate to call him "Emperor" but Luffy replies telling him that Buggy is an idiot.

We get information about Cross guild from Kidd. It seems that they put bounties to marine soldiers and now the navy have to be afraid of even civilians who could kill them.

Law gives Kidd a copy of the road poneglyph saying that they have the right to have it. Killer says that they have to become serious about this to participate in the battle for the One Piece. Kidd asks Killer if he is trying to say that they should find the man with the "burn wound” even though they have no clue about where is he, Luffy is curious about this(same for Robin and Law makes an interesting expression which could basically be that he knows who he is talking about or that he is just hearing the conversation without knowing anything) but Kidd doesn’t tell him about him because that's better for them.

The chapter ends with Momo shouting if Yamato has left too, but Yamato was at the roof and shouts to Momo that it’s time to go with Luffy and that it's time to live like Kouzuki Oden.

[Mugi]

По мнению Ло, тот факт, что Багги подчинил 2 шичей оправдывает его статус Йонко.

[Цезарь Клаун]

Цитата: Сообщение от Mugi  По мнению Ло, тот факт, что Багги подчинил 2 шичей оправдывает его статус Йонко.

А по мнению Кида он не считает его йонко

[Катакури]

диалоги в этой главе, словно дети писали при том разные

[Mugi]

Цитата: Сообщение от Цезарь Клаун  А по мнению Кида он не считает его йонко

Кид завидует :) МП также согласно с Ло, вот чье мнение важнее всего.

[Цезарь Клаун]

Цитата: Сообщение от Mugi  Кид завидует :) МП также согласно с Ло, вот чье мнение важнее всего.

Мда как же быстро ты переобуваешься, а еще недавно топил за Кида:lol:

[Mugi]

Цитата: Сообщение от Цезарь Клаун  Мда как же быстро ты переобуваешься, а еще недавно топил за Кида:lol:

Все также топлю Я и за Зоро топлю, но считаю эту арку эпик фейлом для него по итогу. Я не как старпомодрочеры, чем больше в грязь их втаптывают, тем яростнее они за них топят.